[Paul™]

Can we have a nominated member or members to vet the pricing of items that are listed on here please before they are submitted.

Im sick of seeing vastly overpriced goods being put up for sale.

I myself im more than qualified to sort out the regular pricing of parts, and others are more suitable for performance parts or speciality items.

Its meant to be a forum for ATR enthusiasts, where everyone gets a nice deal, not shite thats close to retail money.

It really annoys me.

[liamsxa]

il soon have a fully refurbed set of wheels for sale that i done myself, what do you they should go for????

[kingy]

Surely this is a free world. If Johnny wants to sell his flux capacitor for near Retail and Billy is prepared to pay for it, then so be it.
Who are we to dictate someone eleses business??

All buyers should do their own research and make their own deal IMO

This post has been edited by kingy: 04 June 2008 - 11:12 AM

[Paul™]

liamsxa, on Jun 4 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

il soon have a fully refurbed set of wheels for sale that i done myself, what do you they should go for????

Liam, minus the tyres you can get a mint set of refurbed powder coated ATR alloys for £170

Exchange of course

[KMB]

I with Kingy

If it's overpriced it won't sell, if it's reasonably priced it will - Shouldn't be a problem

[planet_page™]

Well tbh I feel its up to the person selling to set the prices, if those prices are too high then people will simply not buy, if they do then more fool them.

We can't expect to tell retailers to cut their prices just because we want them cheaper although that would be great, bulk demand is the greatest way to get a cheaper deal so if there is something that you'd like then start a Group Buy

For those of a cheeky disposition and would like something from a retailer then try and barter to get a reduced price free postage etc, talk to the retailers rather than rely on PM's Emails etc.

Mentioning in peoples own personal adds about prices is a big NO NO, same rule applies if the person doesn't sell the item then generally they'll reduce their price.

[Paul™]

KMB, on Jun 4 2008, 12:15 PM, said:

I with Kingy

If it's overpriced it won't sell, if it's reasonably priced it will - Shouldn't be a problem

Its not the point, its the principal.

It takes the piss.

planet_page™, on Jun 4 2008, 12:17 PM, said:

Mentioning in people own personal adds is a great NO NO, same rule applies if the person doesn't sell the item then generally they'll reduce their price.

For once I disagree with you Lee, imho they should be told.

If someone has a right to sell items at a price of there choice, potential buyers should also have the right to comment on the price.

Not one rule for the seller, it works both ways.

[KMB]

I must admit - It is annoying when people put something up for sale with a ridiculous price, but some people are just clueless.... Not everyone works in the trade and keeps abreast of values, so I think the laws of supply and demand will govern the price

[planet_page™]

Well in that case then PM them with the Price, if you don't want the item don't comment

[i_love_bends]

I like your sentiments RapidSeven, but I agree with Kingy.

Caveat Emptor - let the buyer beware.

[James Bond]

I understand what you are trying to do but having people dictate how much items are worth doesn't really fit in well in an open market. Also would be added work for people on the forum.

why not have a rule stating all new goods advertised should be at least a certain % off the retail price and all used goods should be at least 50% off the retail value?

Figures used above are just an example, feel free to come up with more suitable figures.

Using the above rules would keep the forum sales competitive and not over priced. You could put all the over priced items in another folder?

[Paul™]

Just applying some common sense will do.

[kingy]

James Bond, on Jun 4 2008, 12:30 PM, said:

I understand what you are trying to do but having people dictate how much items are worth doesn't really fit in well in an open market. Also would be added work for people on the forum.

why not have a rule stating all new goods advertised should be at least a certain % off the retail price and all used goods should be at least 50% off the retail value?

Figures used above are just an example, feel free to come up with more suitable figures.

Using the above rules would keep the forum sales competitive and not over priced. You could put all the over priced items in another folder?

Or just leave it be - as KMB said, if its overpriced then it won't sell.

Lets think about this a bit.

How much are ATR's worth? Book prices are way below their resale value, are we suggesting that we tell people what they could advertise there motors for?

What about when someone is selling on an unused part that is in short supply? Can we dictate that that person cannot sell for retail price? After all the buyer may be getting the benefit of having the part quicker?

We all do a bit of homework before buying these days - after all the internet is the world at out finger tips. If Joe blogs is asking to much we look for someone cheaper and not just stump up the cash.

This type of "rule" will only ever open a can of worms and ruin a bloody good forum and I'm really pleased that Pagey has a clear opinion on the merits (or not) of the suggestion.

[Paul™]

How would it ruin the forum ? Its impossible if we dont allow it.

Im not saying vet prices that are a couple of quid overpriced, its when there stupidly overpriced.

Just common sense and a quick tug of the vendor via the thread or pm is all that is needed.

Scoobynet was originally if not the best car forum on the web, and it ended up like it is now, due to an influx of traders starting bidding wars and every tom dick and harry selling second hand goods at close to retail prices contributed to its demise from enthusiasts to a breeding ground for bell-ends.

Anyway, opinions differs from one person to the next, and thats the back bone of a forum.

[KMB]

I would say Scoobynet's demise might also have been due to the large number of idiots that got their hands on Scoobys when they became a bargain priced performance car, we all know what happens as cars get cheap

[dmw666]

I guess a board-directed economy won't work, just leave it alone. The first thing i'll do after i've found an interesting item -> google / ebay / ask friends for retail-prices. Everybody with common sense should do that too. If you don't compare prices, you don't deserve it any better!

This post has been edited by dmw666: 04 June 2008 - 01:49 PM

[chainsmoker]

I have a cigarette lighter and air fresher for sale, £320 NO OFFERS!! any takers?

[toyracer69]

YES, no, YES, no, why can't you just ebay it like anyone else?

[kingy]

rapidseven™, on Jun 4 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

How would it ruin the forum ? Its impossible if we dont allow it.

The very fact that control is being exercised would ruin a forum. Maybe a seller wouldn't post items for fear of being controlled? What happens if advice is not followed? do we start warning folk and then maybe even banning people? Once you start its difficult to stop as there is always an exception. For all of this people get frustrated and dissatisfied and often at the person doing the advising.....

rapidseven™, on Jun 4 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

Anyway, opinions differs from one person to the next, and thats the back bone of a forum.

Exactly - so why should you or anyone else enforce your opinion on a sales price? Like all forum treads - if you don't like it, exercise your right not to read it!

Asfor scoobynet, do you really think we're going to attract the same amount of attention from owners or dealers? Different volumes so no comparison.

[Pete.]

i know what youre getting at paul and i do agree but only to a certain extent.

its something that will always cause more harm than good and be very hard to impliment and police correctly.

it keeps itself in check as it is more often than not without anyone having to do anything.


i agree that its up to the seller to set the price and the buyer to pay it or not.

posting up that someone has something priced to high or low etc is just thread wrecking. people are entitled to sell something for the value they see fit and its irrelevant if someone agrees with it or not.

to put it another way, if someone where to call their hand in poker incorrectly and it was to your benefit, would you really tell them?honestly? course not, and lets not pretend that anyone would (certainly the vast majority wouldnt)


let it continue as is and if anyone has an issue with something being overpriced then pm them but dont post it publicly. its far from fair to post up within a thread that the price is too high.

Its the same for any of the other forums i use and it works fine.

for sale threads also dont always tell the full story of an item or set of items and how much work went into it or the condition so again we cant be quick to jump in and put the price under the microscope.


my view anyway.