Amending threads
#1
Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:40 AM
Coming to the end I am paying for using a forum and none of my comments should be removed without informing me - it is not right.
I am more and more convinced that this forum got some monopoly of certain individuals. It is a shame
None of the comments removed in the "White ATR" thread were offensive.
#2
Posted 27 January 2011 - 08:27 AM
I'm sure the mods job is hard enough anyway (they do it out of their own time), without having to make valid reasons why they have moderated.
Perhaps if you unhappy with the members on this forum or the way it is run then maybe look for some other forum which best suits your interest
This post has been edited by Rhys: 27 January 2011 - 08:37 AM
#3
Posted 27 January 2011 - 08:27 AM
Let me have a look at the logs and see what was deleted and why.
#4
Posted 27 January 2011 - 08:36 AM
novakATR, on 27 January 2011 - 07:40 AM, said:
Coming to the end I am paying for using a forum and none of my comments should be removed without informing me - it is not right.
I am more and more convinced that this forum got some monopoly of certain individuals. It is a shame
None of the comments removed in the "White ATR" thread were offensive.
Toyracer69 has made about 14 posts in that topic invisible, not deleted - I can see why, it got out of hand.
Your comments were part of the conversation and therefore included. You didn't do anything wrong exactly, but you did help fuel the fire a little.
You have to remember if he made all the other posts invisible and left yours, your post would look out of sorts because you'd be replying to something that wasn't there.
So in respect of your comments, no monopoly or bias, just a mod tiding up a topic and trying to keep the peace. You should have sent me a PM about this though, not sure it warranted a new topic and it could have been cleared up in private.
#5
Posted 27 January 2011 - 12:03 PM
This has happened many times in the past and certain threads have disappeared.
More balance and fairness please.
Rhys, on 27 January 2011 - 08:27 AM, said:
I'm sure the mods job is hard enough anyway (they do it out of their own time), without having to make valid reasons why they have moderated.
Perhaps if you unhappy with the members on this forum or the way it is run then maybe look for some other forum which best suits your interest
^ Roughly translated :
"This is our clicky forum and if you don't like it, then jog on"
Nice.
#6
Posted 27 January 2011 - 12:16 PM
I think Rhy's response was a little harsh to be honest, yes the mods do a great job and we should be thankful they're here to keep things relatively straight but no need to suggest moving on to a new forum - the grass isn't always greener on the other side!
#7
Posted 27 January 2011 - 01:29 PM
stux, on 27 January 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:
^ Roughly translated :
"This is our clicky forum and if you don't like it, then jog on"
Nice.
Its nothing that hasn't been said before. We seem to be going through the same cycle every couple of months or so
Why have an agenda on here ? Doesn't make sense.....
I can't remember meeting a member in 'real life' and having a disagreement with them. So why do people continue to do so online, what is there to gain ? I would go out of my way to say every member I have met is a decent person. Hey that even includes you Stu !
In real life your easy to chat to and even up for a laugh, why take a troll like internet status ? If you ever came through South Wales again on the bike I would happily entertain you, but in terms of this forum I don't get you some times
#8
Posted 27 January 2011 - 01:57 PM
stux, on 27 January 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:
This has happened a few times in the past and my threads have disappeared.
More women with boobies please.
Hondata S300 - bhp? No idea, must be 210 at the wheels...
#9
Posted 27 January 2011 - 02:01 PM
*Disclaimer: My attendance or the desire thereof in no way implies a level of confidence, bravardo, understanding or bragging rights of trackcraft which could be concidered to be of an expert level or as part of a new found desire to be a racing driver. :D
toyracer69, on 17 August 2011 - 11:53 AM, said:
Little Legs, on 04 March 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:
Carl Tun, on 17 August 2011 - 11:53 AM, said:
#10
Posted 27 January 2011 - 03:51 PM
Rhys, on 27 January 2011 - 01:29 PM, said:
stux, on 27 January 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:
^ Roughly translated :
"This is our clicky forum and if you don't like it, then jog on"
Nice.
Its nothing that hasn't been said before. We seem to be going through the same cycle every couple of months or so
Why have an agenda on here ? Doesn't make sense.....
I can't remember meeting a member in 'real life' and having a disagreement with them. So why do people continue to do so online, what is there to gain ? I would go out of my way to say every member I have met is a decent person. Hey that even includes you Stu !
In real life your easy to chat to and even up for a laugh, why take a troll like internet status ? If you ever came through South Wales again on the bike I would happily entertain you, but in terms of this forum I don't get you some times
All I'm asking for here is a bit of balance.
Ie. Less Vtecdirect worship, uncensored criticism, more competition between traders (resulting in better prices for all), less exaggeration with product sales with regards to power claims. Etc.
I also remember that Novak got a few choice words when he tried to set up a Fujitsubo group buy. If I tried to set up a group buy on Oil, then would Guy from Opie Oils start having a go at me? Probably not, because that fair competition.
I have no problem with other Traders on here - Opie Oils, Solid Fabs. Their service and conduct is very good.
Most people are very nice in the real world. I have to agree there.
I have no 'Agenda'. I just want the forum to be more balanced etc. And be a good place to do business for all members (including myself)
#11
Posted 27 January 2011 - 03:54 PM
sorry i had to say it
#12
Posted 27 January 2011 - 04:36 PM
Stu if I wanted to make this a money spinner I'd hunt traders down and get them to sign-up, but in reality it would turn in to a mess, so yes the existing guys do get a bit of bias but that's through their support to the club. You have to remember we're pretty niche market and so without being too careful could lose support pretty quickly, like I said before it's a balancing act.
You only have to ask Teach about dealings with me on here, he knows full well he's not immune and has to follow the rules like the rest of us - the mods and myself included.
... you might not believe this either but I've had words on numerous occasions with the mods.
#13
Posted 27 January 2011 - 04:36 PM
#14
Posted 27 January 2011 - 04:50 PM
#15
Posted 27 January 2011 - 04:52 PM
stux, on 27 January 2011 - 03:51 PM, said:
Rhys, on 27 January 2011 - 01:29 PM, said:
stux, on 27 January 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:
^ Roughly translated :
"This is our clicky forum and if you don't like it, then jog on"
Nice.
Its nothing that hasn't been said before. We seem to be going through the same cycle every couple of months or so
Why have an agenda on here ? Doesn't make sense.....
I can't remember meeting a member in 'real life' and having a disagreement with them. So why do people continue to do so online, what is there to gain ? I would go out of my way to say every member I have met is a decent person. Hey that even includes you Stu !
In real life your easy to chat to and even up for a laugh, why take a troll like internet status ? If you ever came through South Wales again on the bike I would happily entertain you, but in terms of this forum I don't get you some times
All I'm asking for here is a bit of balance.
Ie. Less Vtecdirect worship, uncensored criticism, more competition between traders (resulting in better prices for all), less exaggeration with product sales with regards to power claims. Etc.
I also remember that Novak got a few choice words when he tried to set up a Fujitsubo group buy. If I tried to set up a group buy on Oil, then would Guy from Opie Oils start having a go at me? Probably not, because that fair competition.
I have no problem with other Traders on here - Opie Oils, Solid Fabs. Their service and conduct is very good.
Most people are very nice in the real world. I have to agree there.
I have no 'Agenda'. I just want the forum to be more balanced etc. And be a good place to do business for all members (including myself)
Stu, what is your problem with Andy/Vtec-Direct then? Because you obviously do have one.
And that's not arse licking or hero worship as if there's something wrong and can be changed then that's what should be done.
Please PM me or any of the other mods/Ed so not to carry on something that's gotten WAY out of hand.
*Disclaimer: My attendance or the desire thereof in no way implies a level of confidence, bravardo, understanding or bragging rights of trackcraft which could be concidered to be of an expert level or as part of a new found desire to be a racing driver. :D
toyracer69, on 17 August 2011 - 11:53 AM, said:
Little Legs, on 04 March 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:
Carl Tun, on 17 August 2011 - 11:53 AM, said:
#16
Posted 27 January 2011 - 05:19 PM
I would prefer to have to frequent other forums for parts and services, but I feel that my options on here are limited.
I also respect that you are running the forum and try to strike a balance. You want/need support from various people, but variety is the spice of life.
carlnike, on 27 January 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:
....And you're coming across as an arselicker. Enough with the abuse please mate. I don't want this to turn into a 'Vtecdirect customers vs Stu' slanging match, as there is no need for it.
#17
Posted 27 January 2011 - 05:33 PM
The thing is i cant understand why on many occasions you go so wild on your soap box. Just think you need to let things go a bit more as you sound stupid. And it comes across like your boycoting andy.
And some one obviously agrees with what i'm saying.
#18
Posted 27 January 2011 - 05:48 PM
Rhys, on 27 January 2011 - 08:27 AM, said:
I'm sure the mods job is hard enough anyway (they do it out of their own time), without having to make valid reasons why they have moderated.
Perhaps if you unhappy with the members on this forum or the way it is run then maybe look for some other forum which best suits your interest
Not really interested in your comment mate about my membership , forums are setup for people who wants to share their views about many aspects not to follow general trend.
I do understand rules and do not really think I am coming into breach with any of them.
I do respect moderators because it is a tough slice of bread to keep everything-up. Especially like Eds which are never offensive in any way full professionalism (this is no licky licky - true comment).
But I need to admit that this is first time I came across such a tight control. Coming to people in real life I think honestly it is a bit other way round I met some of you personally and it seems that views given on the forum about certain people are complete different comparing to what is written over here. Everyone are very diplomatic and trying to not get on someone toes.
But it is as it is - coming to the end it is good to have own views instead of be in line with main trend.
#19
Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:03 PM
now this whole situation looks odd.
like i say, i've made my point in the appropriate 'Feedback' section.
i have no wish to continue any more arguments, as most of it was covered in the deleted thread.
Ed is in charge of the forum and i'm sure that my suggestions have been taken on board about not having enough competition for parts and servicing on here.
Thank you.
#20
Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:45 PM
stux, on 27 January 2011 - 06:03 PM, said:
now this whole situation looks odd.
like i say, i've made my point in the appropriate 'Feedback' section.
i have no wish to continue any more arguments, as most of it was covered in the deleted thread.
Ed is in charge of the forum and i'm sure that my suggestions have been taken on board about not having enough competition for parts and servicing on here.
Thank you.
Stu stop being unreasonable
Your opinions, how ever wrong, are of course your opinions, but stop ramming them down peoples throats and causing trouble just for the sake of it.
You're talking yourself into another posting ban.
Pete the perfectly mild manored 'kind' mod has had you up to his eyeballs and I'm stepping in to save your bacon. One more single unsubstantiated post about Vtecdirect or one bite back about this thread and Ed or myself will ban you. Clear? I hope so.
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