[TypeRDan]

chrismc, on Aug 21 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

Hello all,

Im Chris, RAF technician living in Oxford

Just thought id register & say hi. im normally over on the ITR forum, but after a ride out in my brothers new ATR, I was highly impressed with it & am now strongly considering an ATR as a sporty family saloon...

My Teg is a milano red UKDM with a few choice tweaks. Tein coilovers, mugen CAI & twinloop, 98spec 4-1 mani & hiflow cat with an eCtune remap (196BHP/135lbs/ft) I love it to bits.





The quieter & more refined nature of the ATR is certainly appealling, im now 32 & additions to the family are not too far away, so it seems a logical choice .

I like the fact the H22 engine is more torquey for everyday use, but top end urge feels a match for the integra

I have already had a quick look around, & recognise a few users from the ITR forum, so im guessing others have thought the same as me & consider the ATR a "grown-up" & civilised type-r

Id be very interested to hear the opinions of anybody who has made the same step...

cheers,

Chris

I've just driven from Carlisle to Buxton in a JDM ITR and am thinking of going the opposite way, and changing from ATR to ITR. I couldn't believe the smooth drive and difference in use of power between the two different Type Rs

It was a 54 plate and flew Loads of power low down in the revs, not like the ATRs power more high up the revs. I need one. Now

[TIMBOLAND]

greetings and welcome

the teg is looking tidy and smart

[Rab]

TypeRDan, on Aug 22 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

I've just driven from Carlisle to Buxton in a JDM ITR and am thinking of going the opposite way, and changing from ATR to ITR. I couldn't believe the smooth drive and difference in use of power between the two different Type Rs

It was a 54 plate and flew Loads of power low down in the revs, not like the ATRs power more high up the revs. I need one. Now

that would have been a dc5 then. your right about the useable low down power.


i still prefered my atr to our dc5. perhaps in just gettin old

[nas_r]

Welcome mate.

Both in standard form are more or less exactly the same performance wise. Drove both the other day. At first the ITR FELT faster but when i drove the ATR and my mate drove the ITR, head to head there was nothing in it just depended who got the better start. But in 3rd and 4th the ATR would start pulling ahead.

But i reckon going from you setup on your ITR to a standard ATR then the ATR will definitely feel slower in the lower gears.

[chrismc]

Thanks for the replies...

Just back from a weekend away in the southwest

Stopped in at Torque GT in Buckfastleigh on our way back to see what £4k buys....I have heard them mentioned positively on the ITR forum

They had this advertised on autotrader..

Torque GT ATR

All i can say is very disappointed!

Car was dirty & looked like it was being used as a company runabout. The front lights were very tired & "milky". Add to that two scuffed wheels on the nearside, bubbling alloys, & painted back-end & i had seen enough.

I expected a bit better TBH. Not sure how much "prepping" the car was due to receive but it wasnt good enough for me

[stux]

£4k theiving dealers.

[chrismc]

I sent an email to them via pistonheads noting i had seen the car & was it to receive any prep work as i was disappointed. I received a reply saying it was an "enthusiast" owned car & the defects were to be expected for that age/mileage. No mention of any prepwork

I am just looking outside the window at my own (near 150k mile) car thinking

All comes down to perceptions of "good condition" i guess?

[Le8]

Welcome mate.

[TypeRDan]

nas_r, on Aug 24 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

Welcome mate.

Both in standard form are more or less exactly the same performance wise. Drove both the other day. At first the ITR FELT faster but when i drove the ATR and my mate drove the ITR, head to head there was nothing in it just depended who got the better start. But in 3rd and 4th the ATR would start pulling ahead.

But i reckon going from you setup on your ITR to a standard ATR then the ATR will definitely feel slower in the lower gears.

But is JDM ITR any different in performance to UK ITR? This DC5 pulled better in 6th gear than ANY car I drove before

I'm startin a savings fund specifically for a DC5 thats got to be exactly like that one.

[Robin]

TypeRDan, on Aug 24 2009, 11:03 PM, said:

But is JDM ITR any different in performance to UK ITR? This DC5 pulled better in 6th gear than ANY car I drove before

I'm startin a savings fund specifically for a DC5 thats got to be exactly like that one.

Yes, the 96 and 98 spec DC2 have abot 10bhp more than the UK DC2

[Matatr]

welcome mate!

[Irishteacher]

Robin, on Aug 24 2009, 11:04 PM, said:

Yes, the 96 and 98 spec DC2 have abot 10bhp more than the UK DC2

Another myth! Same engine etc, just japanese spec cars were tested on 100ron fuel. I have driven both uk and jdm dc2's on track and there is no difference.

[Al.]

chrismc, on Aug 24 2009, 06:04 PM, said:

I sent an email to them via pistonheads noting i had seen the car & was it to receive any prep work as i was disappointed. I received a reply saying it was an "enthusiast" owned car & the defects were to be expected for that age/mileage. No mention of any prepwork

I am just looking outside the window at my own (near 150k mile) car thinking

All comes down to perceptions of "good condition" i guess?

Unsure what the mileage is but there's a Pirates Black one for sale in the Manchester area, he's on www.mcr-vtec.co.uk and on here, I know his username as Rage n Bull and his car is up for sale and he is a true enthusiast (a bit like yourself from your disappointment at the last ATR you viewed) so it may be worth giving him a shout
Loads of pics posted as he loves his photography

[chrismc]

Irishteacher, on Aug 25 2009, 09:38 AM, said:

Another myth! Same engine etc, just japanese spec cars were tested on 100ron fuel. I have driven both uk and jdm dc2's on track and there is no difference.

The difference with the JDM's are the exhaust manifold, CAT & ECU mapping. Biggest difference is the manifold & CAT. Usually all adds up to a mild difference, though neither models make the claimed book power on a decent (dyno-dynamics) rolling road.

atrgirl, on Aug 25 2009, 10:27 AM, said:

Unsure what the mileage is but there's a Pirates Black one for sale in the Manchester area, he's on www.mcr-vtec.co.uk and on here, I know his username as Rage n Bull and his car is up for sale and he is a true enthusiast (a bit like yourself from your disappointment at the last ATR you viewed) so it may be worth giving him a shout
Loads of pics posted as he loves his photography

Thanks for the info!

Yes id class myself as a true enthusiast. Any ATR i consider buying is going to have to be pretty special

[Irishteacher]

chrismc, on Aug 25 2009, 12:16 PM, said:

The difference with the JDM's are the exhaust manifold, CAT & ECU mapping. Biggest difference is the manifold & CAT. Usually all adds up to a mild difference, though neither models make the claimed book power on a decent (dyno-dynamics) rolling road.
Thanks for the info!

Yes id class myself as a true enthusiast. Any ATR i consider buying is going to have to be pretty special

Ah yes, had forgotten the manifold, i recall the ukdm teg i drove had a jdm manifold too, so yes slight difference.

And Rage on here on rage n bull on mcr-vtec has a very nice ATR for sale, 104k and pretty tidy last time i saw it.

[nas_r]

Also i think the later tegs 98 upwards were given 4.7 final drive opposed to 4.4 on the earlier models.

[chrismc]

Yes the 96spec JDMs had the 4.4

98spec & UK/EUDM cars had the 4.7

Swings & roundabouts as regards the performance...

98spec with 16" wheels was a dead heat over the 1/4m with a 96spec on 15's on the type-r legends DVD