[TDID]

Hi

Just looking in to some options for my next car as I intend to change early next year, initially I was thinking Jap and turboed but realistically I think running costs will be a bit too much, as such some sort of type r varient seems my best bet.

Essentially I want something that has power, handles well, is reliable, is comfortable and can be taken on track fairly regularly. I want a bit of an all rounder as I run a track car as a daily at the moment and as much fun as it is on track and spirited longer journeys it's a real ballache day to day. Don't want to touch the engine bar some breathing mods, suspension and brake tweaks are a given.

I'll be having a look through and seeing what the search function turns up, I expect I'll be looking for the cost of consumables like starter, alternator, driveshafts and any other stuff that may need replacing on a higher mileage ATR. Also what the standard brakes are like, pad choices and suspension options.

Anyway, that's it for now I think.

Cheers

Pete

[Adam_ATR]

Although we will mostly be biased for an all rounder you won't go far wrong with an ATR. They behave themselves mostly, read the buyers guide for info on the gearbox issue etc.

I believe the oem claipers but with bremtech discs and DS2500 pads are pretty good on track, can't talk from experiance there yet though.

This post has been edited by Adam_ATR: 17 September 2009 - 03:56 PM

[obriener2054]

yep the oem callipers are the same used on the nsx

This post has been edited by obriener2054: 17 September 2009 - 03:59 PM

[Adam_ATR]

Learn something new every day

[obriener2054]

Adam_ATR, on Sep 17 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

Learn something new every day

always will here

[USDM-ATR]

obriener2054, on Sep 17 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

yep the oem callipers are the same used on the nsx

technically they're not. although the ssame dimention the nxs calipers have raised ribbs on them and say NSX. well at least over here they do

[TDID]

Already read the buyers guide

I know roughly what to look out for, need to investigate cost of consumable parts as I would do the work myself, I know mpg in vtec will be low but if it can be in the 30s for motorway runs and the like I'm happy with that. I've always had chuckable hatches but over time I feel the need to have something a little bigger and a different driving experience, I do like the CTR but the steering feel is non existant and coming from a long line of french hatches I just can't do with that, the box and engine are sublime though.

Not a fan of 2500s, more likely to go for yellowstuffs as they're well priced and a good all round pad, perhaps lacking in a little feel but for the price they're pretty good.

I think a few choice mods are all I want and a bit of comfort, I'd like to do 2-3 'ring trips next year so anything that makes the e40 a bit more bearable can only be a good thing, the drone in a stripped out car with a tinny stereo coupled with the most boring motorway in the world (lest we forget Brussels ring road) makes for a pretty arduous journey.

[rucky544]

The ATR is just a nice all rounder car that you can go mad in when the urge takes you, the rest of the time you cruise around in comfort doing about 28-30 mpg.
It was the ideal car for me, 60 mile commute, along coutry roads. comfortable when stuck behind things, then easy over taking and fun when it's clear.

[stux]

Even when VTECing a lot, find it hard to get the mpg less than 20. The ATR can be surprisingly frugal.

[stuartswan]

have you thought about a dc2? wont be as good on the road as a ATR but will be better on the track i would think

[obriener2054]

USDM-ATR, on Sep 17 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

technically they're not. although the ssame dimention the nxs calipers have raised ribbs on them and say NSX. well at least over here they do

just a different exterior cast i'd imagine

[TDID]

I have looked into the dc2 and it is also a real possibility also, they do hold their price very well and a jdm with lsd would be pretty good for track work. Perhaps a little less refined for normal duties but still an option. If I can get a set of track rims in it, a few tools and a bag it's probably on my list. I just think the extra displacement on an atr may make it easier to live with.

We'll see, lots to think about but plenty of time to do it in. I'll sell mine when I have 2-3k in the bank which could be a couple of months time if I have some more regular work, currently self employed so when I earn I earn well but things are pretty sporadic and unsettled at the moment.

At 30 I just feel I want a more grown up car, I love my saxo but ultimately a track car as a daily does my head in, something the itr could potentially do also.

[obriener2054]

TDID, on Sep 17 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

At 30 I just feel I want a more grown up car, I love my saxo but ultimately a track car as a daily does my head in, something the itr could potentially do also.

atr is such a comfortable car even though it is quite raw and has the lsd too........ the itr with it having 2 doors would neve have been interesting to me, the atr was a no brainer

[Rhys]

TDID, on Sep 17 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

I have looked into the dc2 and it is also a real possibility also, they do hold their price very well and a jdm with lsd would be pretty good for track work. Perhaps a little less refined for normal duties but still an option. If I can get a set of track rims in it, a few tools and a bag it's probably on my list. I just think the extra displacement on an atr may make it easier to live with.

We'll see, lots to think about but plenty of time to do it in. I'll sell mine when I have 2-3k in the bank which could be a couple of months time if I have some more regular work, currently self employed so when I earn I earn well but things are pretty sporadic and unsettled at the moment.

At 30 I just feel I want a more grown up car, I love my saxo but ultimately a track car as a daily does my head in, something the itr could potentially do also.

Buy a DC2
Wish i had now, although i do love my ATR to bits, but i get the feeling its a wannabe Integra.

What is the spec on the Saxo ?

This post has been edited by Rhys: 17 September 2009 - 04:40 PM

[obriener2054]

Rhys, on Sep 17 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

Buy a DC2
Wish i had no, although i do love my ATR to bits, but i get the feeling its a wannabe Integra.

What is the spec on the Saxo ?

get one Rhys, you'll regret it eventually!!!!


i have none in life but hate hearing about others saying it

[USDM-ATR]

obriener2054, on Sep 17 2009, 11:19 AM, said:

just a different exterior cast i'd imagine

the Legend brakes ar the same

[Rhys]

obriener2054, on Sep 17 2009, 05:40 PM, said:

get one Rhys, you'll regret it eventually!!!!
i have none in life but hate hearing about others saying it

I'm over it now

ATR for life !

[USDM-ATR]

i want to get a dc2 eventually and make it barely street legal(gutted and lexan all around) G23 and turbo AND nitrous and a jdm front end

[TDID]

Nowt major, I bought a vtr as I went back to college for 2 years and needed something motorway friendly with low running costs. Bought as standard with good history, now has weld in cage, omp record seats, dished wheel, usual breathing mods, bilstein suspension, uprated brakes. It's good fun on track though the gearing is way too long. I'm off to the 'ring again next month which should be good fun, I'm still learning the place but that doesn't matter, it's more challenging than uk stuff where you can push fairly hard after a few laps.

When I'm in a position to buy I will take some test drives and see what suits my needs best.

[stux]

Rhys, on Sep 17 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

i get the feeling its a wannabe Integra.

That's what happens when you rip all the seats out!